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This week we look at 500*FCF7 – 400*LCG7.

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Today we consider an inter-market meats spread: long January 07 Feeder Cattle and short February 07 Live Cattle (500*FCF7 – 400*LCG7). After being in a down trend in September and October, the spread turned around and has been moving up for about one week. Seasonality should move the spread higher (light blue line) until the end of November. But after the seasonal up-move in November, we see a strong seasonal down-move in December.

Traders may want to enter the spread at $13,100. Margin for the spread is $2,971 (no reduced margin) or $2,195 if you get fractionalized spread credit (ask your broker). Suggested risk is $1,200. Initial projected objective is $1,200, then a move to $18k or higher. Please note: The spread is 1:1. The multipliers 500 and 400 are used to give us the right spread value in US$.

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Previous Trades:

On October 23 we told subscribers of our daily newsletter, Traders Notebook, "Consider entering an intra-market wheat spread WZ7 – WH7 MOC on Monday. Margin for the spread is $1,350 (reduced margin). Suggested risk is $1,000. Initial projected objective is $1,000, then a move to break even or higher. Basis is seasonal (app. 10/25 – 02/30) and a RH. Comment: Wheat is moving up like crazy. I personally would try to get into the trade at least with 2 lots. I would get rid of the first lot pretty quickly and would leave the second for a long term trade."

Here's how we suggested managing this trade:

10/23 In?
10/30 Spread is having a hard time. It just doesn’t want to move up. I personally would exit if the spread doesn’t move up to my first target by Friday.
10/31 Spread is close to the first suggested target. Suggest moving the stop to –54^4.
11/01 Suggest taking some money from the table if not already done.
11/03 Spread hit first suggested target.
11/07 Suggest moving the stop higher to –49.
11/09 Suggest moving the stop higher to –40 ½
11/13 Suggest moving the stop higher to –35 ½.
11/21 Suggest moving the stop to –28.
11/22 Suggest moving the stop to –22.
11/24 Suggest moving the stop to –19 ¾ (if you think the stop is too close, leave it farther away).

Open equity on remaining contracts: $2,000 per contract. Please keep in mind that we already realized profits of about $1,000.

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Andy Jordan's Trading Bites

Student's Question: "Andy, can you give me some idea of how much money I should risk on each trade?"

Andy: This is really a tough one because I do not know enough about you, your trading style, or the money you trade. But I will try to give you some general ideas. I personally feel the most logical way is to use a certain % of my trading account on each trade. For example, if your trading account is $20k, and you are willing to risk 5% on each trade, you would trade $1,000 on your first trade. If your account grows to $22k, you would then risk $1,100 on the next trade, and so on.

Now you will probably come up with the following question: “What % should I use for my trading?” And this is the point where the problem starts. If you use too much on each trade, you will be out of the game whenever you have several consecutive losses. If you are risking too little, your account will grow really slowly. Without going into details, try to think about the following points:

- how many consecutive losing trades are possible the way I am trading?
- what is the maximum drawdown I am able to accept?

I totally agree when you say it is very difficult to find out how many consecutive losing trades your trading style can produce. We are not able to look into the future, and anything is possible in trading. But your trading journal will give you a good estimation. If this trading style or method is new for you, you should try to get a good estimation from somewhere else or you should do some paper trading to get at least an idea. With these numbers (how many consecutive losers and maximum drawdown) you are now able to find out if the percentage of risk on each trade is too little or too much for the way you trade. All you have to do is to calculate the balance of your trading account after all the consecutive losses, using the percentage of risk you are willing to take on each trade. If this is something you can live with, stick with it. If not, lower or raise the risk on each trade, and do the calculation again.

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